Summary
Andrew Huberman speaks with Dr. Allan Schore, a faculty member in psychiatry and behavioral sciences at UCLA and a longtime clinical psychotherapist, about how early child-parent interactions shape brain circuitry and influence our capacity for attachment, emotional regulation, and relationships throughout life. Dr. Schore explains how right-brain hemisphere development during infancy -- driven by emotional attunement between caregiver and child -- establishes the neural foundation for processing emotions, reading nonverbal cues, and navigating social bonds.
The conversation covers attachment styles (secure, insecure, anxious), how psychobiological attunement and repair cycles between parent and infant wire the brain for emotional resilience or vulnerability, and how therapy can reshape these patterns in adulthood through right-brain-to-right-brain synchronization between therapist and patient. They discuss how the right hemisphere drives creativity, intuition, and empathy, the role of music and eye contact in fostering resonance, and practical tools for accessing right-brain states -- including reducing screen time, spending time in nature, and prioritizing embodied, emotionally present communication over text-based interaction.
Key Points
- The right brain hemisphere is dominant in infants and develops through emotional attunement with caregivers, establishing lifelong patterns for emotional regulation
- Attachment styles (secure, insecure, anxious) are shaped in the first two years of life through cycles of attunement and repair between parent and child
- Therapy works through right-brain-to-right-brain synchronization, where emotional tone and nonverbal cues matter more than the literal content of words
- Eye contact, body language, and vocal prosody carry the emotional information that drives empathy and genuine connection
- Text-based communication strips away the right-brain emotional signals essential for deep relational understanding
- Activities that engage the right hemisphere -- music, nature, creative pursuits, and embodied presence -- can strengthen emotional processing capacity
- Paternal involvement in early caregiving is important for child development, and the father-child bond shapes different aspects of attachment than the mother-child bond
Key Moments
Right brain dominance in the first two years shapes everything
Dr. Allan Schore explains that the human brain growth spurt occurs from the last trimester through age two, during which the right hemisphere is dominant. All attachment patterns are established during this period through right-brain-to-right-brain communication between infant and caregiver.
"All of that time is a period of right hemisphere dominance."
Father shapes left brain while mother shapes right brain
Schore presents his theory that just as the mother shapes the infant's right brain in the first year through soothing and emotional attunement, the father shapes the baby's left brain in the second year through play, exploration, and language development.
"Just as the mother is shaping that baby's right brain in the first year, the father is now shaping that baby's left brain towards the end of the first year, second, and into the third year."
The surrender switch from left brain to right brain
Schore describes how healing in psychotherapy requires a shift from left-brain analytical processing to right-brain emotional processing - the surrender switch. Music, touch, and prosody of voice activate this right hemisphere, which is also how dogs connect with humans.
"The surrender is the colossal switch out of the left into the right. So not so much paying attention to the content of the words, the logic behind them, the logical flaws that might exist, the analytic part, but rather how the words sound, how the words feel"