The Truth About Lymphatic Drainage, Body Contouring, & Celebrity Massage With Josie Rushing

How the lymphatic system rebuilds after drainage

Josie Rushing explains that the lymphatic system naturally rebuilds after each drainage session, which is why consistent treatments are needed.

"She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential. Him and her. Aha! The queen of Brazilian lymphatic massage is gracing us with her presence. Josie Rushing. She's a self-made seven-time award-winning Brazilian celebrity massage therapist. She's one of the biggest names behind the Brazilian lymphatic massage in the world. And she's personally seen herself thousands of clients. I am one of them. She actually has a Brazilian spa in Austin, and I go see her all the time. She has changed the game. In this episode, I ask her every last speck of a question that you could imagine about lymphatic drainage. I really like it because what I notice is when I go to her, I'll see in like bloated or with water in my legs or stomach, and I'll walk out just feeling light as a feather. It's such a good massage to get if you have an event or you're going to be in a bikini. But honestly, I've done it my whole pregnancy and it makes me just feel really great. It's so amazing for your immune system. And she knows so much about this specific kind of massage that I wanted to have her on the podcast. Josie, welcome to the Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. The queen of lymphatic therapy on the podcast. Not only is she the queen of lymphatic therapy, you guys, she also is the queen of Brazilian lymphatic, which is a very special technique that we're going to get into. I have had the pleasure of getting to know Josie because she works on almost every inch of my body. And she's helped me in so many different instances and after talking with her through all of these hour sessions I was like you have to come on the podcast to share all of your knowledge with the audience and we kicked Michael off right I feel sorry though because he was wanting to have a Brazilian lymphatic did you hear that He's trying to book with Josie in the hallway. He wants a Brazilian lymphatic drainage massage. Yeah. And he's so excited about it. But I kicked him off because I just wanted to ask you all the questions without him in here. Yeah, that's nice. Thanks for having me, by the way. You're welcome. It's a pleasure to be here. You're welcome. So first, just to get the lay of the land, explain the difference between Brazilian lymphatic and American or other, maybe French lymphatic. What's the differences? Yeah, that's a great question because people usually, they know just the lymphatic. Brazilian lymphatic, as the name says, is so famous in Brazil for so many years. But actually, the regular lymphatic was created about 100 years ago by Dr. Vauder and his wife as well. But they were not actually worried about what we might be worried now. We're talking about like plastic surgeries. We're talking about a different lifestyle that we are currently living. People are worried about their shape, their contouring after a surgery during like postpartum as well a hundred years ago dr. Votter was not worried about any of this that was more of a internal thing let's say this way so the idea of the Brazilian lymphatic is that we are able to help our clients from the inside out as a regular lymphatic, American one or French or any way that you'd like to call it. But also we are able to help them on the outside cosmetic wise. So it's a combination that will give more results to the clients, thinking about their cosmetic side as well and thinking about this new lifestyle that we are living. So you get the wellness benefits. Yeah. But you also get the shape that you want. Yeah. I've seen some incredible transformations that you've done, but also on my own body, you literally lose like 10 pounds of fluid. You can. Our bowel lymphatic system holds about four to five pounds of wastes. That's it. So people sometimes they think that they are overweight, but actually it's not overweight. It could be water retention. So a lymphatic, for example, one hour of Brazilian lymphatic can help to reduce about 90% of waste and lymphatic fluid that we have in our body. We're talking about one hour only of about four or five pounds, for example. So yeah, Brazilian lymphatic helps from the inside out, but also helps with so many other things as far as cosmetic wise. what i think too is so interesting about it is you're puffy and inflamed in places you never would think you've talked to me about this the under armpits if your armpits are really puffy yes that's stagnant lymph yeah some people are puffy in their vagina some people are puffy in their ankles yeah and lymphatic really helps that those are are like the places that are blocked, right? Absolutely. So we have the superficial lymph nodes everywhere in our body, not everywhere, majority of some places, including specifically the left auxiliary that we call here on the armpit. And if it is puff, you might have some sort of issues, especially wellness wise. You can be feeling fatigue or even acne. Acne can come with problems related to your lymphatic system. Lots and lots of other problems, emotional issues as well. Depression, fatigue, or even anxiety. All of these can be helped by doing Brazilian lymphatic. So it's so important that we talk about all of this because people sometimes they don't know. They want to treat the outside and they just forget the inside. And with Brazilian lymphatic, we can help everything from the inside and also the outside. Talk to the audience about how fucking crazy it would be to get plastic surgery or any surgery without doing lymphatic. It's like making a sandwich without the bread. I know it's so important and before the surgery liposuction, tummy tuck, breast augmentation, face lift, whatever aesthetic surgery that you're going to get you have to have lymphatic before the surgery to get your body ready for that surgery. It's a trauma that you're going to endure. So you need to have some sort of preparation so your body is ready, your immune system is ready, your body is clean to get that invasive treatment. Because I don't know if you guys ever watched how a tummy tuck is done, how a liposuction is done. It's like a lot of trauma to the body. And then right after the surgery, whatever you're going to do, we also have to have lymphatic to avoid scar tissue, to avoid like to speed up your recovery, for example, and maintain after you are done, make four months out of your surgery. Just maintain at least once a week having a Brazilian lymphatic, which I know could be crazy for people. Like I can't have lymphatic every week, but actually that's what is needed for our body. And in Brazil, that's very normal. You told me two, three times a week. I've had my first lymphatic when I was 12 years old. I just turned 40. I remember like it was like yesterday, I was laying down in my mom's bed. This lady went there and she was massaging my mom. And also she massaged me when I was 12 years old. Because like I said, it's a wellness thing. It helps with so many benefits for our health, but also for the cosmetic side. Cellulite, for example, it's one of the benefits. We have a study done with people like women were doing Brazilian lymphatic for a month, twice a week, and they got their cellulite reduced in 58%. So it's like it does help the overall. Plus. Plus you besides the cosmetic benefits, we have also the wellness one in general, your health, immune system, cortisol levels. There are so many benefits that I could literally be here like all day long just talking about it. When the internet was helping me name my first baby, they were giving like names. i should name my first born lymphatic oh no because i talked about because i was obsessed with the lymphatic system because i was so swollen from jaw surgery that i had to find all these different things to do and the thing that made the biggest difference was lymphatic drainage and facial manipulation yes yes people don't realize too in their face, it's why I launched with an ice roller first, like you have to move that fluid. Yes. If you don't move the fluid and you don't do some kind of lymphatic practice or massage or manipulation, what happens? What happens to your body? Your body is going to be heavy overall. First of all, like I said, we can have up to four or five pounds of like just weights there, weights in our body. But also you are not going to be able to have that immune system or better getting boosted, for example. You are going to be very swollen, feeling like very heavy on your legs. After a day of work, for example, we all women, women we are wearing our heels so at the end of the day we are tired because we need to help our body to do its work it's not possible for our body the day that the way that we live our life right now so we have to think this lauren imagine like a hundred years ago like 50 years ago we didn't have all these like cars and sitting on a computer or staying like all day long, like over this, just on the same position without walking, without like doing all these health things that a long time ago, it was normal for the society. So we kind of have to balance everything. The way that I like to say is that if people are actually able to balance everything that is not being good for them, that's what is the best thing to do. And Brazilian lymphatic is the balancing, let's say, the system back, helping with so many other things in our body. So they're going to feel sluggish. They're going to feel fatigued. They can feel very, very like heavy with water retention on their legs, on their arms. There are a lot of like outside body things that we can see that cause the like not working with your lymphatic system properly. I mean, I got a lymphatic massage by you yesterday and I walked in feeling so heavy, almost like I was wearing like a fat suit. I mean, I'm very, very pregnant. It's so cool because you started on my left leg and immediately it felt light as a feather. Yes. But my other leg felt so heavy still. It is one of those things and why I personally like it that you see instant result. Yes. And then it's so quick. Like in one hour, we can get 90% of that fluid back to our lymphatic system using our hands only. There's nothing else we can do besides of home routines like the dry brushing or even the gua shao or something like that, ice roller, for example. But with our hands, we are able to help so much our body. And with you, I started with the left leg for a reason. So my technique, the Brazilian lymphatic massage by Josie Washing, is proprietary. And I was studying every single detail, including starting on the left leg first. There's a reason why. Why? Of course there's a reason. There's a reason why for that. So we do all of this because our lymphatic system is not even in our body. So we start on the left leg to give more time to the other side to kind of like pair and balance. Same that we do pressure points for example so we have our spleen that is part of our lymphatic system there's no way that we can manually touch our spleen so when I was creating my own technique I was thinking how can I get this spleen working better because it's a place so much important role on our lymphatic system and pressure point was the answer. So I do pressure points on the legs that will actively work on the spleen, for example, on my Brazilian lymphatic. So there are a lot of things that I do based on strokes, fascia release, pressure points, respiration, or even starting on the left leg that are important and will give more results to our clients. Do you think it's like crazy if someone says they don't get lymphatic? Oh my gosh, yes, totally. Do you know why? I feel that what I always tell people is like, just try once. That's all. I'm not trying to convince you that it's going to be good for you I just feel that people they have to try once because after that I know for sure they are going to become an ambassador of the Brazilian lymphatic I was just here I just got here to record this podcast and I was outside and I was talking to this lady outside from your front desk Alex in HR yes and she was like raving about it because she was scared at first she was thinking that was going to be very painful and then she was like no it's not painful at all it helped me this and that and she started talking to this other lady that was right besides me and then this other lady wanted to hear more so that's all that I say just try once because I know the benefits are going to totally change people's lives I know that a lot of people during or after surgery rather have gotten lymphatic and the lymphatic person tries to squeeze fluid oh have you heard of this? Of course I did. It's causing incisional drainage. Yes, someone came on the podcast and talked about it. Talk about mistakes people are making. I don't want to watch that episode. I'm kidding. So you don't like incisional drainage? Not at all. Not in Brazil. We do not believe that. The thing is, like I said, when you have a surgery, it's very traumatic for the body. So you are creating more edema, water retention. Your body's trying to recover from all the incisions and everything. So when you go there and you literally squeeze the fluids out of the incisions, like incisional drainage does, you're actually not letting your body to recover, which is the main goal of a Brazilian post-surgery lymphatic. So it's a big no-no. So what else are no-nos like that? What would you be like horrified to learn? I've seen a lot of sometimes when I'm scrolling on Instagram, I see people using a lot of pressure and like even sometimes giving bruises to people because they think that if they want to get those before and afters get very snatched and very like wooed like they need to feel pain and beauty is not pain not with brazilian lymphatic you know you can have beautiful results like snatched the stomach snatched faces recover with post-surgery without any pain. It's actually very relaxing."