The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast

#430 CKD, Metabolic Acidosis, Baking Soda vs Fruits and Veggies. It's NephMadness 2024!

The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast with Dr. Tim Yao 2024-03-11

Summary

Internal medicine physicians Dr. Matthew Watto and Dr. Paul Nelson Williams interview nephrologist Dr. Tim Yao about managing metabolic acidosis in chronic kidney disease (CKD). The discussion covers the pathophysiology of acid-base balance in CKD, the role of sodium bicarbonate supplementation in slowing kidney function decline, and an emerging alternative approach using fruits and vegetables to achieve similar alkaline effects. Dr. Yao explains that metabolic acidosis in CKD accelerates kidney damage and muscle wasting. Traditional treatment involves oral sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to raise serum bicarbonate levels above 22 mEq/L, but the sodium load can worsen hypertension and fluid retention. A landmark study showed that increasing fruit and vegetable intake could achieve comparable reductions in kidney disease progression with fewer side effects, offering a dietary alternative to pharmacological bicarbonate supplementation for primary care management of CKD.

Key Points

  • Metabolic acidosis in CKD (serum bicarbonate below 22 mEq/L) accelerates kidney decline and promotes muscle wasting
  • Standard treatment: oral sodium bicarbonate tablets (650mg, typically 2-3 tablets three times daily) to raise serum bicarbonate
  • The sodium load from bicarbonate supplementation can worsen hypertension and cause fluid retention — a significant clinical concern
  • A study compared bicarbonate supplementation vs increased fruit and vegetable intake for slowing CKD progression
  • Both approaches were similarly effective at preserving kidney function, but the fruit/vegetable approach avoids excess sodium
  • For primary care, checking serum bicarbonate levels in CKD patients and intervening when below 22 mEq/L is a key action item
  • Dietary approaches (more fruits and vegetables) may be preferred in patients with hypertension or fluid overload concerns

Key Moments

How metabolic acidosis accelerates kidney disease

The hosts introduce the topic of metabolic acidosis in CKD, explaining that it accelerates kidney decline and muscle wasting, and that primary care management involves raising serum bicarbonate levels above 22 mEq/L using oral sodium bicarbonate.

"we're doing metabolic acidosis just for the internists. We're not critical care intensivists. So we're staying out of the ICU for this discussion and more like your primary care management of CKD metabolic acidosis."

Fruits and vegetables as an alternative to baking soda for CKD

Dr. Tim Yao discusses a landmark study comparing sodium bicarbonate supplementation to increased fruit and vegetable intake for slowing CKD progression. Both approaches were similarly effective, but the dietary approach avoids the sodium load that can worsen hypertension and fluid retention.

"Sure. Happy to, as always, Matt. As a reminder, we are the Internal Medicine Podcast. We use expert interviews to bring you clinical pearls and practice changing knowledge."

The sodium load problem with bicarbonate supplementation

The discussion highlights how the sodium load from oral bicarbonate supplementation (typically 650mg tablets, 2-3 three times daily) can worsen hypertension and cause fluid retention, making dietary alternatives particularly valuable for patients with blood pressure concerns.

"we are the Internal Medicine Podcast. We use expert interviews to bring you clinical pearls and practice changing knowledge."

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