#45 - How Important Is Failure & How Much Does Training Hard Matter? ft. Greg Nuckols

The Jeff Nippard Podcast 2021-02-16

Summary

Greg Nuckols breaks down how close to failure you should train for hypertrophy versus strength, recommending most sets stay within 1-2 reps of failure while adjusting based on exercise type and injury risk. They cover the volume versus intensity debate, RPE as a training tool, individual differences in ideal rep ranges, and why compound lifts like squats and deadlifts warrant different intensity strategies than isolation work.

Key Points

  • For hypertrophy, keep most working sets within 1-2 reps of failure -- stopping further out significantly reduces the growth stimulus.
  • Compound lifts (squats, deadlifts) carry higher injury risk at true failure, so stopping 1-2 reps short is safer than grinding reps.
  • Isolation exercises can be taken to full failure more safely, making them ideal for accumulating high-effort volume.
  • RPE (Rate of Perceived Exertion) is a useful autoregulation tool but requires practice to calibrate accurately.
  • Individual rep range preferences exist -- some people grow better in the 6-10 range while others respond to 12-20, so experiment.
  • Training intensity (effort per set) and volume (total sets) both drive growth, but neither works well in isolation -- you need sufficient amounts of both.

Key Moments

Go to failure on isolation lifts but stop short on compounds

Greg Nuckols explains that the decision to train to failure depends heavily on the exercise — for single-joint movements like curls, going to failure adds minimal fatigue, but for compound lifts like deadlifts the additional fatigue cost is significant.

"I don't know why you wouldn't train to failure just because like gives you bigger pump and it's fun. And doing two extra reps of, you know, skull crushers isn't going to dramatically impact your weekly training volume. Whereas, you know, those two extra reps on dead lifts might really cost you."

RPE 7 is the minimum threshold for meaningful muscle growth

Nippard and Nuckols discuss research showing that most gym-goers need to be within roughly three reps of failure (RPE 7 or higher) to drive muscular progress beyond the beginner phase.

"if you're consistently leaving more than three reps in the tank, you're probably not doing much for muscular progress past that like hardcore beginner phase"

Failure tolerance is trainable — the acclimation effect

Nuckols shares how transitioning from powerlifting-style sub-maximal training to bodybuilding-style failure training initially wrecked him, but after acclimation the fatigue cost dropped substantially, suggesting failure tolerance is itself a trainable quality.

"when I started like transitioning back from powerlifting style training, generally leaving quite a few reps in the tank to going closer to failure. Like one to two sets to failure just absolutely fuck me up. And now it's like kind of no big deal because I'm used to it."

Injury risk is a game of tissue tolerance versus tissue adaptation

Nuckols frames injury risk as a balance between exposing tissues to stress that drives positive adaptation versus exceeding recovery capacity, explaining that catastrophic injuries usually result from gradual tissue degradation rather than a single event.

"you're playing a game of tissue tolerance versus tissue adaptation. And like, it's kind of like you're playing a game, like a board game, but you can't actually see where the pieces are moving"

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