312: Mike Israetel & Kassem Hanson - Periodising For Hypertrophy

The Revive Stronger Podcast 2022-05-23

Summary

Dr. Mike Israetel and coach Kassem Hanson get into the weeds on periodization for hypertrophy, with a heavy focus on deloading strategies and how to structure training phases for maximum muscle growth. They compare different deload approaches, discuss when and how to reduce volume versus intensity, and debate the nuances that make hypertrophy programming more complex than most lifters realize.

Key Points

  • Hypertrophy mesocycles should progressively increase volume (sets) over 4-6 weeks, then reset with a deload before fatigue overwhelms recovery.
  • Active deloads (reduced volume at moderate intensity) maintain neuromuscular skill better than full rest weeks for hypertrophy trainees.
  • Reducing volume during a deload is more effective for recovery than reducing intensity -- keep weights moderate but cut sets in half.
  • The optimal deload frequency is individual but typically every 4-8 weeks depending on training age, volume, and recovery capacity.
  • Periodization for hypertrophy is less about peaking for a single event and more about managing fatigue to sustain productive training year-round.
  • Junk volume (sets done while excessively fatigued) should be eliminated before adding more total volume -- quality of stimulus matters.

Key Moments

Deloads as stimulus shifts rather than just volume drops

Coach Kassem explains his alternative deload approach where instead of simply dropping volume, they shift the training stimulus toward whatever is the current recovery bottleneck, such as conditioning or density-based work.

"And then what we do is we do kind of our version of Adela, which instead of just a drop in volume, is kind of a shift in stimulus."

The primary goal of a deload is resensitization to hypertrophy

Kassem describes the deload's main purpose as resensitizing the body so the next hypertrophy block produces maximum results from the least volume, while also addressing recovery limiters like poor conditioning.

"Well, one would be to resensitize you to be able to go back into whatever, you know, you're trying to focus on, right?"

Why conditioning-focused deloads may backfire for hypertrophy

Mike Israetel argues that a standard deload followed by restarting at lower volumes may be more effective than conditioning-focused deloads, because endurance-style training during deloads can reduce sensitivity to muscle growth.

"I de-load, I reduce a ton of fatigue, and then I make myself more sensitive type hypertrophy, and I start another mesocycle of significantly lower volumes because my minimum effective volume has dropped substantially, and now I can get a lot of hypertrophy without my conditioning being a huge limiting factor for me for many weeks on end."

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