The Tai Lopez Show

Is Your Office Chair Killing You? Why I Use A Treadmill Desk

The Tai Lopez Show 2015-07-01

Summary

Tai Lopez reviews the book "Get Up" by Dr. James Levine, who runs research at the Mayo Clinic and invented the treadmill desk. Lopez discusses from his own treadmill desk (a Lifespan model set at 1.2 mph) the key research findings: sitting kills more people than smoking, with each hour of sitting potentially cutting two hours off your lifespan. The episode covers NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis) — the concept that non-gym activity is the biggest variable determining whether people stay lean or gain weight. A farm worker can burn up to 2,000 extra calories versus an office worker. Lopez also explains how a 15-minute walk after eating can cut blood sugar spikes in half, making treadmill desks particularly relevant for diabetes prevention.

Key Points

  • Dr. James Levine's research shows sitting may be worse than smoking — each hour of sitting potentially cuts two hours from lifespan
  • Going to the gym cannot offset sitting all day, according to four major US and Australian studies
  • NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis) is the biggest variable in whether people stay lean — not gym exercise
  • A farm worker burns up to 2,000 extra calories per day versus a sedentary office worker through non-exercise activity
  • Walking for just 15 minutes after eating cuts blood sugar spikes in half
  • At 1.1 mph on a treadmill desk, you can walk nearly 5 miles in 4 hours while still working normally
  • Primitive tribes only sit about 3 hours per day — a useful benchmark for modern life
  • Only 2% of US high school students have daily physical education

Key Moments

Sitting kills more than smoking — the research behind treadmill desks

Tai Lopez breaks down Dr. James Levine's research showing that sitting is worse than smoking, and that gym exercise alone cannot offset a full day of sitting.

"did you know that sitting kills more people now than smoking? So, you know, the seat in your car, your desk at your work, you know, sofa watching TV. According to this doctor in today's book of the day, Get Up, he says these are the real killers in the world."

NEAT — why non-exercise activity determines body composition

Lopez explains NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis) — how non-gym activity like walking throughout the day is the biggest factor in whether people stay lean, with farm workers burning up to 2,000 extra calories versus office workers.

"Alright, did you know that sitting kills more people now than smoking? So, you know, the seat in your car, your desk at your work, you know, sofa watching TV. According to this doctor in today's book of the day, Get Up, he says these are the real killers in the world. He makes a crazy bold claim. He says for every two hours sitting or every one hour sitting, you cut two years off your lifespan. So he's not a pseudoscientist. This is a guy who runs a Mayo Clinic at a big university. He's been doing research since the 1990s. This is actually my treadmill desk that I actually had before I heard of this book, even though I found out now this guy invented the treadmill desk so look the world now I think the US spends just past over three trillion dollars in health care costs per year you know for you and I everybody in the modern world's dealing with being overweight one in three people have high blood pressure about 25% of the US and a lot of the world is either diabetic or pre-diabetic. It's actually a big problem in China where you can eat Kentucky Fried Chicken all the time. Believe it or not, that's the most popular restaurant there. So here's the takeaways from this book that I got. Going to the gym will not offset you sitting all day. I thought that was interesting because a lot of of people's idea is like, I'll do 45 minutes at the gym, then go to work, sit six or seven hours, and then the gym is supposed to make up for that. But he says there's four major studies in the US and Australia that all concluded the same thing. You can't offset sitting all day, no matter how much you go to the gym. Okay okay so go to it and I actually saw the US government published something they're usually not publishing much on actually being healthy but they published something that said same thing you can't offset sitting by 45 minutes at the gym just jumping even on a treadmill like this it has to be long periods of time because this book talks about the way the human DNA is built. And our DNA doesn't change that fast. So we have the same DNA that our ancestors had 10,000 years ago and beyond. And they spent most of their time sitting or sleeping, right? So number two thing I thought was interesting in this book, he says they were trying to study why some people eat a lot and get fat and some people eat a lot and don't get fat. And basically it comes down to this NEAT, which is Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis."

Walking after eating cuts blood sugar in half

A 15-minute walk after eating can drop blood sugar spikes by half, making treadmill desks especially relevant for preventing diabetes and metabolic disease.

"if you go for a light walk, okay, right after you eat for 15 minutes, so this Dr. Levine, he says now, after he eats a meal, he just moves around. It'll drop your blood pressure, I mean, sorry, your blood sugar in half."

Practical treadmill desk usage — 10,000 steps while working

Lopez demonstrates his Lifespan treadmill desk at 1.2 mph, showing how at just 1.1 mph you can walk nearly 5 miles in 4 hours and hit 10,000+ steps while working normally.

"So basically you and I, according to this doctor, it says about 60% of the calories we burn every day come from just what they call your basal, your resting basal metabolism rate. So that's just like laying down, you know, breathing, your brain burns. Your brain, I think, burns about 20, 25% of all your calories just thinking. So then he says another 10% is from the actual heat process of eating. And then some of it's activity exercise. But he says the largest one, the biggest variable that makes a lot of people skinny, able to eat junk food and say skinny versus people that are fat, not necessarily junk food, but the same amount of food. He did a big study where they ate an extra 54,000 calories. He thought that was crazy. It was like a three-year study. And what happened is it's non-exercise activity that really matters, meaning going to the gym is exercise activity. He said it's hard to burn in 45 minutes enough energy. So if you look at a treadmill like you go to the gym, you run for a while, you only burn like 100 or 200 calories. So he said the difference is in this non-exercise thermogenesis, meaning a farm worker who walks all day when they're at work, okay, will burn like up to, they said, up to 2,000 extra calories versus a secretary who just sits in a chair all day. So he said focus on not what he called volitional exercise, like going to the gym. Like, oh, now I'm going to go to the gym for 45 minutes. He's saying focus on the rest of the day, which if you've heard my talk on, you know, I did one on holidays, it's the same principle. Don't optimize for the 45 minutes of your life that you're at a gym. Optimize the whole day. That's when you burn most of your calories, according to this. All right, number three. Sorry, I gave you the solution. Well, before I said that, he talked about education system, which you know I'm big on. Children, he was saying, this is bad, I'm going to read this. In the U.S. currently, 4% of elementary kids, 8% of middle school kids, and only 2% of high school kids have daily PE, physical education. So then he's talking about all these kids diagnosed with ADD and all this stuff. He says it's a huge part. It's because you can't take kids and have them sit all day. It makes no sense. It goes against human DNA. And like my mentor, Joel Salatin, told me, anytime you're looking at something and it's going against the grain of nature, he used to tell me, Mother Nature laughs last. And that's what the world we live in now, where 60% of people are overweight. 60%, first time in history, more people are overweight than malnourished. You know, 100 years ago, there were people on their deathbed because they didn't have enough food. Now it's the opposite. So, next thing he said that I thought was cool. He studied with this top diabetes clinic, and they were studying what happens after you eat. So, right after you eat, your blood pressure peaks, right? Because what's happening is your pancreas is producing insulin. Insulin pushes the sugar, the glucose, into your muscle so you get energy, basically. That's an oversimplification, but that's basically the process. So what happens is, or what they found is, if you go for a light walk, okay, right after you eat for 15 minutes, so this Dr. Levine, he says now, after he eats a meal, he just moves around. It'll drop your blood pressure, I mean, sorry, your blood sugar in half. So if you just eat a lot, especially if you eat a lot of junk food, and then you just lay on the couch and watch the game, he said those blood sugar peaks stay high for too long and that is a precursor to diabetes and it's interesting pre diabetes is a huge problem meaning you're not quite diabetic I read somewhere not in this book but by 2030 50% of kids in the US are going to show symptoms of either diabetes or. Man, I always say, you've got to wonder about the strength of any nation that poisons their own kids. Not that people do it on purpose, but if you get pulled over by the cops and you say you didn't know that you were speeding, they don't care. The way the law works is you are penalized whether or not you're doing it on purpose. If you're accidentally speaking, you still get a ticket."

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