Summary
Abel James interviews Dr. Andrew Saul, known as the Mega Vitamin Man, about his 40 years of experience with high-dose vitamin therapy. Dr. Saul presents a passionate case for using megadose vitamin C to treat a wide range of conditions, from viral infections to cancer, citing the clinical work of pioneering physicians like Dr. Frederick Klenner, Dr. Robert Cathcart, and Dr. Hugh Riordan. The conversation covers the concept of bowel tolerance dosing, where oral vitamin C is taken in divided doses until gastrointestinal saturation, which Dr. Saul claims can achieve therapeutic blood levels comparable to IV administration. He shares personal anecdotes including taking 150,000 mg in 23 hours after hernia surgery and curing viral pneumonia by taking 2,000 mg every six minutes. The episode also addresses common objections including kidney stone concerns, arguing that vitamin C actually dissolves most kidney stones rather than causing them, and discusses why the medical establishment has been resistant to vitamin therapy.
Key Points
- Medical doctors have been using high-dose vitamins to treat disease for over 70 years, starting with Dr. Klenner curing polio with IV vitamin C in the 1940s
- Bowel tolerance dosing means taking oral vitamin C in divided doses until gastrointestinal saturation, the point where therapeutic effects begin
- A sick person can absorb vastly more vitamin C than a healthy person, with needs increasing dramatically during illness
- Dr. Saul took 150,000 mg of vitamin C in 23 hours after surgery without reaching bowel tolerance
- Frequent small oral doses (every 6-30 minutes) can simulate an IV drip and achieve comparable blood levels
- Vitamin C does not cause kidney stones according to Dr. Saul, and actually dissolves most calcium oxalate stones
- IV vitamin C has shown high cure rates for difficult cancers including ovarian, pancreatic, and bowel cancer
- Animals produce 2,000-15,000 mg of vitamin C per human body weight equivalent daily, while the human RDA is under 100 mg
- High-dose vitamin C can curb appetite and reduce nicotine cravings without causing substitute food addiction
Key Moments
70 years of physicians using high-dose vitamins to cure disease
Dr. Saul explains that medical doctors have been using high doses of vitamins to cure disease for 70 years, starting with Dr. Klenner curing polio with vitamin C in the 1940s, but this history has been obscured from public knowledge.
"For 70 years, seven zero years, medical doctors have been using high doses of vitamins to cure disease."
Bowel tolerance dosing and the 150,000 mg post-surgery experience
Dr. Saul explains the bowel tolerance concept where you take vitamin C until gastrointestinal saturation, and shares that after hernia surgery he took 150,000 mg in 23 hours without reaching bowel tolerance.
"Dr. Cathcart's message was when you take oral vitamin C, you take it to bowel tolerance. And that means exactly what you think it means."
Curing viral pneumonia with 2,000 mg every six minutes
Dr. Saul recounts curing his own viral pneumonia by taking 2,000 mg of vitamin C every six minutes while playing Scrabble, bringing his fever down three degrees in three hours and stopping his cough.
"I lined up my vitamin C tablets, and I had a big pitcher of water and a little timer, and every six minutes I took 2,000 milligrams. Six minutes, huh? That's 20,000 an hour. My fever came down three degrees in three hours, and my cough stopped."
Animals make far more vitamin C than the human RDA
Dr. Saul explains that animals produce 2,000-15,000 mg of vitamin C daily per human body weight equivalent, while the US government RDA for humans is under 100 mg, and even the USDA's own guidelines for lab animals recommend 10-15 times more per body weight than for humans.
"But just about every animal, from a flea to a ferret to a flounder to a blue whale, they all make vitamin C. And when you analyze how much a goat, a cat, a dog, a cow makes, it turns out that per human body weight equivalent, they make between 2,000 and 15,000 milligrams a day."