Summary
Ben Greenfield interviews water researcher Robert Slovak for a deep exploration of Quinton marine plasma, covering how it is harvested from oceanic plankton blooms, the difference between isotonic and hypertonic formulations, and why the mineral proportions in seawater match those in human blood plasma. Slovak explains Rene Quinton's historic 1904 canine blood transfusion experiments, the use of percutaneous hydrotomy for spinal injuries in France, and the delicate cold-filtration process that preserves the biological activity of the solution. The conversation also touches on hydrogen water tablets, deuterium-depleted water, and structured water concepts.
Key Points
- Quinton marine plasma is harvested from specific plankton bloom zones where phytoplankton and zooplankton interact hundreds of feet below the surface
- The mineral proportions in seawater are virtually identical to those in human blood plasma and extracellular fluid
- Rene Quinton's famous quote: "The only way life could leave the ocean was to take the ocean with it"
- Heating Quinton destroys its biological complexity; cold microfiltration is essential to preserve RNA fragments, DNA, and organocomplexed minerals
- Isotonic form (0.9g/L) matches blood plasma concentration; hypertonic is full-strength ocean plasma
- Percutaneous hydrotomy uses subcutaneous Quinton injections around the spine for disc rehydration and healing
- Sea salt can never reconstitute into seawater once the water has been removed, making liquid marine plasma unique
- Slovak was saved from a life-threatening illness in Brazil by taking Quinton ampoules
Key Moments
How Quinton is harvested from oceanic plankton blooms
Slovak describes how Quinton is harvested from massive plankton bloom assemblages in the ocean, where phytoplankton lives near the surface in the first 50 feet and zooplankton ascends from 300 feet below to consume it, creating the mineral-rich solution.
"Well, let me finish. So there's assemblages in the ocean, huge, hundreds of kilometers across of phytoplankton that's near the surface within the first probably 50 feet because that's the zone of light and phytoplankton needs light. But in nature, in oceanographic nature, hundreds of feet below, there's also zooplankton."
Rene Quinton's 1904 canine blood transfusion proof
Slovak recounts Rene Quinton's landmark 1904 experiment in which he completely transfused the blood of six canines with isotonic seawater, demonstrating seawater's biocompatibility with mammalian physiology.
"Well, let me finish. So there's assemblages in the ocean, huge, hundreds of kilometers across of phytoplankton that's near the surface within the first probably 50 feet because that's the zone of light and phytoplankton needs light. But in nature, in oceanographic nature, hundreds of feet below, there's also zooplankton. And zooplankton is like krill is a zooplankton. Copiopods are zooplankton. They're microscopic. I don't know. You could call them microscopic shrimp if you like. and very much like cows at a farm going to pasture, eating grass and coming back to the ranch, the zooplankton ascend upward through those 300 feet, say, and consume the phytoplankton. In the consuming of the phytoplankton, there is an incredible, we will call it biocynotic event, meaning it's a bioreactor of unimaginable biochemical reactions that involve not only all the elements of the periodic table in the water, but all the things that are being produced, the fluids, the chemicals, the phytochemicals, et cetera, by both the phytoplankton and the zooplankton. That goes on between those two layers, the phytoplankton on top, the zooplankton on 300 feet below. And in the center, it is actually referred to as the zone of biocenosis. And that is the birthplace of Kintone. So if you just say, well, Robert, I don't want to get my seawater from there. I have an island off the coast of the Philippines. I will tell you the value of all the periodic table that you would consume from that ocean are incredible. Use it, do it, but it won't do all the things that plankton bloom-derived seawater is able to do. And what is that? Well, for 124 years now, Cantone marine plasma in those little glass ampoules has been perhaps we can call it one of the top three or four medicines, not just nutrients, of all time. It was in the European Physician's Desk reference from about 1930 to 1999 as a medicine, right along with whatever penicillin and all the other pharmaceutical medicines. It was indistinguishable from those other things because of what it did. From when the time that René Cantón discovered it or produced it in 1897, and then to prove to himself this was the most life-combatible fluid known, the most famous thing he probably did was to transfuse the whole blood of six dogs in 2004. You mean like an intravenous administration of Keaton? Yes, but a full replacement, meaning replace as much blood as you can get out of the dog. It wasn't a cakewalk for the dog. Jesus, poor dogs. Jeez. Yeah. Okay. So he did this, but the dogs survived and thrived. And several of the dogs that weren't healthy dogs became healthy. And he wrote a 500-page treatise that describes this event in minute-by-minute detail. And this has been produced several other times in history that this is beyond belief. So he did it. Now, just shortly after 2004, Europe was raked with multiple pandemics. Already, cholera was in play from the 1800s, tuberculosis, typhoid, gastroenteritis, here we go, syphilis, influenza, etc. All the diseases of the early 1900s that were killing approximately 50,000 people per month. So what happened was there were no pharmaceuticals then. There were potions, homeopathics, herbal elixirs, etc., but no real medicines real medicines so when john jericho the preeminent physiologist of the time was part of this solution of getting of overcoming the pandemics he asked renee canton what if what about your stuff and they said well's do it. Let's take sick people and let's administer Quintone in a variety of ways. We don't have the time to get into it, but they did. And it became a worldwide study. And Europe and Northern Africa set up 69, they were called in French marine dispensaries, but they were places where the sick came in to have only canton administration. They were called in French marine dispensaries, but they were places where the sick came in to have only Canton administered to them. They administered it by subcutaneous injection. They administered peritoneal injection. They administered it orally. They administered it rectally. They did everything. Consuming, drinking it, Depending upon the affliction and the disease, they had figured out the best way to administer it. And it became legend. By the time René Cantón passed away in 1925, it had saved Europe from virtually all of the pandemics. and he was revered, you know, like something like, I can't remember, 150,000 people show up at his funeral and there's statues all over Europe acknowledging Rene Cantone. So this continued on. It was still in this book called The Vidal. And I have a copy of the book. You know, it's like a three-inch thick book that has Quinton as a cure. What's the book called the vidal and i have a copy of the book you know it's like a three inch thick book that has quinton as a cure what's the book called again it's called the vidal the vidal i-d-a-l it's the it's the physician's desk reference of france but but in those early days france was so ahead of everybody in medicine it was the physician's's desk reference of Europe. I have a copy. I have copies of all the entries in there and what it did and what it was doing. In 1934, really the first medicine really that was serious came out and that was called penicillin. And that took some of the thunder away from Kintone because it was much easier to use. And you can imagine in those days making a sterile solution that could be injected out of seawater without, and this is the key everyone must know, Kintone is never heated. It's never taken above room temperature. It's all sterilized and made apyrogenic for pyrogen removal by very specialized microfiltration. What's pyrogen removal? Pyrogen are fragments of bacteria that are the activators for the body to raise its temperature, to react and beginning to build a defense against microbial diseases. So pyrogen, they're really polysaccharides and the pyrogen activates things in the body."
Why sea salt can never become seawater again
Slovak explains that the proportions of elements in human extracellular fluid match those in seawater, and that once you remove water from sea salt, you can never reconstitute it back to true seawater, which is why liquid marine plasma is irreplaceable.
"That's the magic. That's why sea salt, as beneficial as it can be, it never can become seawater. Once you remove water, and water is the magic, you never can reconstitute it."
Percutaneous hydrotomy for spinal disc healing
Slovak describes percutaneous hydrotomy, a procedure taught in Nice, France, where an octopus-like array of subcutaneous needles delivers Quinton isotonic around the spine by gravity to rehydrate and heal damaged discs.
"And what they do is they have like an octopus. Imagine an octopus of subcutaneous needles of, say, eight of them, all connected with a manifold of plastic tubes that lead to a bottle of Kintone isotonic. Those little needles are inserted around, just subcutaneously, into and around the spine. And they just allow the Kintone to flow by gravity to rehydrate the spine and heal."
Why heating Quinton destroys its therapeutic properties
Slovak explains that while heated Quinton retains its minerals and trace elements, the heat destroys its full biological complexity including RNA fragments and organocomplexed components that make it therapeutically unique.
"If you heat Kintone, will it have beneficial minerals and trace elements? Absolutely. Will it have the same potency as a living extract? No."