Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews

Ep. #949: Q&A: Dead Hangs, Greens Vs. Veggies, Saunas, Genetic Testing, and More

Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews 2022-08-12

Summary

Mike Matthews answers listener questions covering dead hangs for shoulder health, genetic testing for diet personalization, greens supplements versus real vegetables, cryotherapy versus cold water immersion, sauna timing around workouts, progressive overload ceilings, and fat loss strategies. The dead hangs segment is the standout practical takeaway, where Mike shares his personal protocol of four sets of 45-second hangs five days a week that completely resolved his shoulder pain within three weeks.

He explains that tight lats, subscapularis, and infraspinatus muscles are a common cause of shoulder pain in lifters, and that daily hanging from a pull-up bar — alternating between overhand and chin-up grips — effectively stretches and mobilizes these areas. His massage therapist confirmed the tissues were no longer "sticky" after he adopted the routine. Mike also notes that listeners who tried the protocol reported similar relief across various shoulder issues.

Key Points

  • Dead hangs (4 sets x 45 seconds, 5 days/week) resolved Mike's shoulder pain from tight rotator cuff muscles and lats within three weeks
  • Alternate between overhand pull-up grip and chin-up grip for a more complete stretch, especially through the lats and subscapularis
  • Tight lat, subscapularis, and infraspinatus muscles are a common cause of shoulder pain in lifters
  • Genetic testing for diet and supplement personalization is mostly hype — the science isn't there yet for most people
  • Greens supplements are not a replacement for eating real fruits and vegetables; they're essentially a poorly formulated multivitamin
  • Cryotherapy doesn't do much; cold water immersion (5-7 min at 50-60°F) is the evidence-based approach but may blunt muscle growth if done right after training
  • Sauna should be done after workouts, not before, to avoid draining energy for training

Key Moments

Dead Hangs

Dead hangs resolved chronic shoulder pain in three weeks

Mike Matthews describes how four sets of 45-second dead hangs, five days a week, completely resolved his shoulder pain caused by tight lats, subscapularis, and infraspinatus within three weeks. His massage therapist confirmed the tissue improvement.

"And within three weeks or so of doing those not even dead hangs, five times per week, my shoulder issues were completely resolved. And the massage therapist I see every week also immediately noticed a difference that those areas were now not feeling sticky anymore and were moving smoothly."
Dead Hangs

Alternating grip dead hangs for a more complete shoulder stretch

Mike recommends doing two sets with overhand pull-up grip and two sets with chin-up grip to target different muscles, noting the chin-up grip provides a better stretch through the lats and subscapularis.

"I do two of those sets in a just standard palms facing away pull-up grip. And then I do two sets, facing each other like a chin up grip. And I find that gives me an even better stretch, particularly in my lats. And I feel also that subscapularis moving and stretching."
Dead Hangs

Dead hangs as prevention even without existing shoulder issues

Mike notes that listeners who tried dead hangs reported relief from various shoulder issues, and recommends them as a preventive measure even for people without current problems.

"I've already heard from people who have emailed me just to let me know that they heard about the dead hangs probably here on the podcast previously. They started doing them and it also really helped their shoulders and whatever issues they were having, which are not necessarily the same issues that I was having. It can help with all kinds of shoulder issues. And if you do not have shoulder issues, doing the regular dead hangs can help keep your shoulders healthy and prevent issues."

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