The Peter Attia Drive

#261 - Training for The Centenarian Decathlon: zone 2, VO2 max, stability, and strength | Peter Attia, M.D.

The Peter Attia Drive 2023-07-10

Summary

Peter Attia presents a live AMA celebrating his book Outlive, diving deep into the centenarian decathlon framework -- a personalized set of physical tasks you want to be able to perform in your last decade of life. He shares his own list of 18 events including picking up a 30-pound child from a squat, getting off the floor with one point of support, dead hanging for 30 seconds, farmer carrying 25% of bodyweight per hand for a minute, and producing a VO2 max above 30 ml/min/kg. The episode explains how to backcast from these goals: because strength declines 1-4% per year after 50, you need to be dramatically above baseline today. Attia frames his entire training around four pillars -- stability, strength, aerobic performance (zone 2), and anaerobic output -- and argues that stability is where most people fail first, starting from the moment they enter school and begin sitting. He discusses farmer carries, dead hangs, wall sits, DEXA scans for muscle mass tracking, and zone 2 training as practical benchmarks.

Key Points

  • The centenarian decathlon is a personalized list of physical tasks you want to perform in your last decade -- then backcast training requirements
  • Four pillars of exercise: stability, strength, aerobic performance (zone 2), and anaerobic output
  • Strength declines 1-4% per year after 50 -- you can't afford to be average at 50 if you want to perform at 85
  • A man in his 40s should be able to farmer carry his body weight for one minute and dead hang for two minutes
  • DEXA scan metrics matter: aim for 75th percentile or above for appendicular lean mass index (ALMI)
  • Strength beats muscle mass as a predictor of lifespan, but both are important integrators of overall fitness
  • Attia experienced his "marginal decade" at age 28 through a debilitating back injury, which reshaped his entire training philosophy
  • Sports create asymmetric stress -- deliberate training must counterbalance the repetitive demands of any specific sport

Key Moments

The centenarian decathlon -- backcast from your last decade

Attia explains the centenarian decathlon concept: define the specific physical tasks you want to perform in your last decade of life, then backcast training requirements. His list includes picking up a 30-pound child, getting off the floor with one point of support, and farmer carries.

"I had to back cast from that marginal decade around a set of very specific events. And that set of events, we would call the centenarian decathlon."

Stability benchmarks for your 40s and beyond

Attia shares specific centenarian decathlon benchmarks: dead hang 30 seconds, farmer walk one minute with 25% bodyweight per hand, single-leg stand 30 seconds eyes open and 15 seconds eyes closed, hex bar deadlift bodyweight for five reps, and VO2 max above 30.

"Dead hang for 30 seconds. Strength and stability. Farmer walk for one minute with 25% of body weight in each hand."

Strength declines 2-4% per year -- you can't afford to be average at 50

Attia presents data showing muscle mass declines 1-2% per year after 50 and strength losses may reach 2-4% per year. The compounding effect means you can't be average at 50 and expect to perform in your 80s.

"And again, it's associative data, but it's very strong associative data, which is look, muscle mass is a great integrator of exercise and strength. So hemoglobin A1c is a metric that is effectively an integral function for glucose. So you get this number, 6.5, and it tells you directionally over the last three months, your average blood glucose has been 140 milligrams per deciliter. So the hemoglobin A1C integrated the area under the curve and spit out that number. And similarly, that's effectively what VO2 max muscle mass and strength are doing. They are integrators of the work that it takes to have a high VO2 max, to have high muscle mass, to have high strength. And the work that goes into that is the secret sauce. In other words, it's not so much the muscle mass, I think, that is the most important thing. It's what you had to do to get said muscle mass and what that muscle mass will then do vis-a-vis metabolic function and of course the implication with respect to the functional side of things. So muscle mass and strength are not equivalent and when put head to head, strength beats muscle mass as a predictor of lifespan, but all of these things are important metrics to be tracking. So I think then the rest of the conversation will kind of focus on the actual training piece of it, right? So that was the bulk of questions that we received, which is how much should I be training? How much in the different pillars? How do you best train zone two? How often? How many times a week? VO2 max. So I think we'll kind of now start getting into those pieces. But I think what would be helpful is we also received a lot of questions from people who are like, Hey, I play basketball four times a week. Hey, I play tennis. I play golf. Hey, I, like I do marathons. I maybe just, I go to the gym and I lift. Is that okay? Or how important is it to actually be really specific to train for this and to hit all of those pillars? Well, again, I think it depends on your objective. So everything has to be compared to the alternative. So if a person says, look, I'm playing tennis twice a week, I'm playing basketball twice a week, and I'm lifting weights once a week, am I doing great? The answer is, yeah, you are doing great relative to most people, but I don't think that that's a recipe for success if you want to be in the best shape possible in your last decade. And the reason being is sports like any sport, whether it be basketball, tennis, swimming, any particular sport has so much repetitive stress in it that you're going to develop movement issues. You're going to have asymmetries in joints and muscles, and you want to kind of balance those things out as much as possible. So again, if you want to be able to play golf every week and you're going to walk five miles, that's great. But you to play golf every week and you're going to walk five miles, that's great. But you have to acknowledge every time you're swinging that club, it's asymmetric."

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